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chris21 8 ( +1 | -1 )
Quick question Is the Goring Gambit another name for the Danish Gambit?

Thanks for any help:)
atrifix 9 ( +1 | -1 )
No the Goring Gambit includes the moves Nf3 and ...Nc6, the Danish Gambit does not. Two different openings.
chris21 13 ( +1 | -1 )
atrifix But if NF3 and ...Nc6 were thrown into the mix would the game not then be the scotch gambit?

Or am I getting the move orders confused?

Thanks.
a_professional_idiot 5 ( +1 | -1 )
c21 the goring gambit throws in another pawn.
caldazar 41 ( +1 | -1 )
Scotch Gambit: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Bc4. Sometimes the alternate move order 4. c3 dxc3 5. Bc4 is chosen but this allows a different set of defenses for Black, most notably 4... d5, which is satisfactory for Black. But then, the Danish, Goring, and Scotch Gambits are all satisfactory for Black to begin with, so that's probably not saying much.

Goring Gambit: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. c3 dxc3 5. Nxc3

Danish Gambit: 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. c3 dxc3 4. Bc4
atrifix 30 ( +1 | -1 )
Goring Gambit usually does not continue 5. Nxc3, but 5. Bc4 is also possible (the note in your first line). I believe ECO classifies this as the Goring Gambit, not the Scotch Gambit, but I could be wrong.

Nf3 and ...Nc6 are a rare addition in the Danish Gambit, so while a transposition to the Scotch/Goring is possible, it's not altogether practical.
caldazar 27 ( +1 | -1 )
Not sure. I've never been big on naming conventions myself, and I tend to treat all those types of center gambits in roughly the same fashion (after checking for tactical tricks inherent in the specific position, of course), so the fine distinctions are usually lost on me.