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dai_feind_katana 8 ( +1 | -1 )
Hello i need some good openers for my future games My opener is always the same and i need something
else. please reply.
mattafort 6 ( +1 | -1 )
Hello What have you used so far?
Tell me some about it.
dai_feind_katana 7 ( +1 | -1 )
mattafort i always go for the 4 move checkmate, but it never
workd... i always loose.
stuka 44 ( +1 | -1 )
I've noticed that a LOT of lower rated players try this often - however, to anyone who's spent much time at the board, it's an obvious attempt (heck, after you've had it done to you once, you sure don't want it to happen AGAIN! :) ). It also doesn't give you a strong position to work from - an opponent who defends decently while developing his position will surely give you grief if you consistently follow this line.
absolutegenius 20 ( +1 | -1 )
you could buy a chess book, and use this to help you with your openings, although this is technically illegal...or you could look up sites that have diffent chess opening?
silverwolfwsc 15 ( +1 | -1 )
illegal? how is it illegal? You are allowed to use books, etc in correspondence chess. Are you just supposed to read nothing during the time you are playing correspondence chess games?
shoshin 30 ( +1 | -1 )
Start your studies with the "Epine Dorsal" and when your opponent moves away from the dorsal, learn his line, the theory behind it and how to counter it...with every game you will learn more and more opening theory.

PS You do need a good opening book...I recommend Sairewan's (sp)
bellepheron 10 ( +1 | -1 )
Two I like... as white, the Ruy Lopez:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf6 Nc6 3. Bb5 ...

As black, the Sicilian Dragon

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6

be agressive with both!
indiana-jay 16 ( +1 | -1 )
Yes...
Ballepheron recommendation is good. It is suitable with your style of play. But may be Sicilian is not for you...
absolutegenius 33 ( +1 | -1 )
pishpots they are legal-i think there was a stushi about it before and they were made legal, or it's on another site that they're illegal :p also-some chess computers allow you to play them with certain openings, i.e. you wish to play the polish, they shall play the polish etc...
crazkidlvnlrg 12 ( +1 | -1 )
Try this move Move ur knight to f6 and when ur opponent makes a movetry to surround ur king with ur strongest chess pieces
indiana-jay 15 ( +1 | -1 )

If you start to use and learn openings, a gambit is a good upgrade for your 4 Move Checkmate. Gambits are suitable for your typical quick games...
clemens 98 ( +1 | -1 )
Hello dai_feind_katana!

I think that, at your level, you shouldn't spend any time at all learning opening variations by heart, it will just frustrate you when your opponent deviates. Instead, I recommend employing basic rules for the opening; here is a nice link to get you started:
www.exeter.ac.uk/~dregis/DR/Openings/10openrules.html

I am sure that this will improve your chess understanding much more than replaying sequences of moves you have learnt, but don't know why they are made in the first place.

Also, if you do want to study some basic variations, there is a section on "Openings for Beginners" on the same site:
www.exeter.ac.uk/~dregis/DR/openings.html#beginner

Hope this helps!
buddy2 30 ( +1 | -1 )
no-no I looked at one of your recent games. DONT defend your e pawn with f6 as black until you've played a thousand more games! Knowledge is the key and you get that through books+experience and a good mentor, if you're lucky. Otherwise you keep making the same mistakes over and over ...
jacobmatias 2 ( +1 | -1 )
here: 1.d4 2.d5 3.Nf3 4.Nc6 5.g3 6.e6 7.Bg2 8.Nf6 9.Bf4 10.Be7 11.e3 12.O-O 13.O-O

I invented it myself.
queenlover 24 ( +1 | -1 )
i like this one.. as white ....king pond to e-4.....knight to f3....bishop pond to c-3.......also i was wondering why does black ...play bishop pond to c-5 alot...alot of my games black moves that move...why it looks like it helps nothing.....
andante_lagrimoso 9 ( +1 | -1 )
A solid opening for you is Nf3, g3, Bg2 and 0-0. Then you maybe can play b3, Bb2, d3, Nd2, Qe1, e4 maybe you could put c4 into your move order...
smolensk 1 ( +1 | -1 )
1.Nc3 is the answer
kremator 33 ( +1 | -1 )
Common guys Do you expect him to play the Sicilian dragon? Or any of the bizzare, obscure, and advanced things you're telling him. He needs to start with something simple, like the 4 knights, King's gambit, Guico Piano, Queen's gambit. You know the normal stuff. Not hypermodern openings or ones that require 5000 hours of study.
chessnovice 26 ( +1 | -1 )
... I agree with kremator. You can't expect someone who is new to openings to immediately start playing the semi-open and closed games. I suggest these openings:

Ruy Lopez: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5
Two Knights Defense: 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6
Queen's Gambit: 1. d4 d5 2. c4

Once he can handle those, he could go on to new openings.
karolus 25 ( +1 | -1 )
Also you can go here:www.bookup.com and download the free book 2000 lite which is nice and gives you the possibility to learn a lot about openings. There was an advertisement here in gameknot yesterday, to visit. There are another programs stronger tu buy.
hoss 87 ( +1 | -1 )
best opening i think the best for you would be to learn the basic principals of opening play and spend most of your study time on the middle game. you will win many more games being better tactically than your opponent than if you play a brilliant opening and then fall for a simple knight fork(which by the way happens to even masters from time to time). that being said the general chess public says to learn chess you should open with 1e4 as white and defend 1e4 with1..e5 as black, as this will most likely lead to an open position rich in tactics. also try, for the time being to steer away from 1d4 and flank openings as they are a differnt beast all together.
hope this helps you out it did for me when i was at your level

best wishes
hoss
buddy2 31 ( +1 | -1 )
checkmate I go for the THREE move checkmate myself. that way I can get in more games and my rating will, in consequence, go up faster. I used to use the five move checkmate, but as my skill increased dramatically, gradually lowered the number of moves needed to checkmate opponent. I hope this helps some beginners out there.
olympio 12 ( +1 | -1 )
soon my young padowan.. you can advance to the 2 move mate.. then you can be a chess "fool" the highest rank in the chess world
buddy2 43 ( +1 | -1 )
Padwan?? I'm not sure what Olympio meant by "padowan," so I don't know whether to be insulted or pleased. The closest I can come is "Paduan," a native of Padua, according to the Oxford English Dictionary. I can assure you I have never been to that lovely Italian city, although I'm acquainted with some who have. Perhaps he meant "paduakans," a decked sailing ship of Malaya. Here, in the Pickwickian sense, he may have hit the mark.
chessnovice 4 ( +1 | -1 )
... Watch Star Wars, dude.
premium_steve 74 ( +1 | -1 )
i agree with queenlover... i used to play bishop pawn to c5 a lot, but i like e6 and e5 much more now. with e6 (against 3.Nc3), i play dxe4 and then Nd7. with e5, i play latvian gambits... (italian games are for suckers, after all! and maybe some italians ;)).
against the king's gambit, though, i'm still looking for a comfortable way to play.

as white i always play e4. it's the only fun way to play chess. maybe playing d4 would be a good way to learn about using pieces and rooks and stuff. i used to like it, but now i think it's lousy. yeah, d4 and c4 are boring and stupid. i think f4 might be alright, though. with e4, i'll play c3 or richter-rauzer against c5; advance caro-kann with h4 as third move against Bf5; Nc3 and Bg4 against french; vienna (3.f4) against e5, etc.

kofman2155 169 ( +1 | -1 )
Wondering I'm just slightly more advanced than the person who started this post but I'm in the same position. I've been playing chess quite a bit recently but reached a point where I simply need an opening. Ususally I have to think of my first move when responding to e4, or d4. I mean it's not that I don't know where to go. I just can't decide sometimes. I don't have anything memorized. I usually play the scicilian. But it's all wrong. (Umm off topic do you guys know of a good book for that). I also like the Gambits when I play white. But I don't ever know how to respond to queens gambit. So anyway I was wondering should I stick to Ruy Lopez or can I move onto the Sicilian. Personally i love complicated abstract play. Becuase unless I'm playing an experienced player I usually gain the upper hand which boosts my confidence. It's also much easier to get out of bad positions (In my opinion). I also like defensive play as black rather than offensive. As white I usually play king's gambit becuase I get the concept behind it. To force pressure off the center. And it's not hard to take out that pawn later in the game. In your opinion which openings should I learn. Should I get a book for the scicilian (and which one). Or something else. Also what should I play as white. If I knew an opening well I wouldn't mind being aggressive as white. I personally love quick mates too. I used to play the 4 move mate but instead of matting just stray off and kill the e pawn. An aggressive play like that won me about 5 solid games if not more. While it worked at first it only worked on novinces. So any suggestions.
olympio 12 ( +1 | -1 )
buddy2 it was just something i heard from star wars.. just following your joke with another
caldazar 228 ( +1 | -1 )
kofman2155... Play whatever you can understand.

"Ususally I have to think of my first move when responding to e4, or d4. I mean it's not that I don't know where to go. I just can't decide sometimes. I don't have anything memorized."

Do you make logical opening moves when you finally do decide, moves that have purpose? If so, why would you need to memorizing opening theory? If you reach playable positions after your first dozen moves (or whatever), does it matter whether it took you 30 seconds or 30 minutes to get to that point?

"I usually play the scicilian. But it's all wrong."

Then don't play the Sicilian. You need to have the proper tactical, positional, and endgame knowledge to play Sicilians (or any other opening) To use myself as an example, I won't touch the Black side of the Sicilian Defense with a 10-foot pole. I simply don't possess the proper understanding necessary at this time to play it well. I don't understand how to play positions where I lack space. I'm not sensitive enough to the changing positions to time my attacks properly (I either launch my counterattacks too early or wait to long). My understanding of piece play is too inefficient; I often need more pieces in play to achieve an objective than a better player would. So I don't play the Sicilian; perhaps I will start one day if I ever manage to overcome these weaknesses. Or perhaps not.

"So anyway I was wondering should I stick to Ruy Lopez or can I move onto the Sicilian"

You make it sound as though the Sicilian is somehow a superior defense... Play the one that makes the most sense to you because it happens to be the one in which you possess understanding of the ideas upon which the opening is based. (control of the center, rapid development, initiative, counterattack, active piece play, whatever).

"Personally i love complicated abstract play."

I have no idea what this means. What constitutes "abstract play" to you? And how complicated?

"As white I usually play king's gambit becuase I get the concept behind it."

Then play the King's Gambit.

"But I don't ever know how to respond to queens gambit."

1. d4 d5 2. c4. White is attacking the center (specifically d5). So Black either needs to defend his center (...c6 or ...e6, for instance) or concede and try to find play elsewhere instead (...dxc4 with a counterattacking followup, ...Nc6 are some examples).
buddy2 15 ( +1 | -1 )
the slide to oblivion First, Olympio regales me with quotes from Star Wars, then chessnovice calls me "dude." Lord, where will it all end?
kofman2155 46 ( +1 | -1 )
What I mean by abstract play is just what you had mantioned. Cluttered, confusing positions (where pieces have multiple relationships between pieces). Once I master those positions I'll be able to trully excel. I have a pretty good opening game and effectivly panetarate defenses, but at the end of mid game and early endgame I start to loose control so I'm working on making better end game stredegies. Thanks for your response btw.