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lroycroft 33 ( +1 | -1 )
Advice during/after game from experience players? I was wondering whether the experienced players would be feel comfortable to make comments during the game, should the less experieced players welcome them. I personnally would love some advice during or after the games I lose so that I can learn from my mistakes...what do others think?
verticalchess 11 ( +1 | -1 )
Well According to the rules of the site any advice or use of a program during a game is considered to be cheating. Look in the FAQ section.
lroycroft 48 ( +1 | -1 )
These rules, I believe, refer to advice given by others to help you win...not advice given by your opponent in relations to helping your game.

I understand that advice from others to help you win is wrong. That is fair. I believe that we should encourage the experience players to be involved with those who are willing to learn. This can only be made possible through sharing of views either during or after a game.

larry
indiana-jay 68 ( +1 | -1 )

As you are accepting all challenges, soon after I complete one of my game (less than 10 moves forced mate) I will challenge you. I will discuss everything about my strategy and plan, and will tell you if you make a mistake. I'm very comfortable playing like this in a serious game. So let's soon play a zero-defect game. Only by playing like this a game worth an analysis and review. If I tell you what I would do, that's not cheating because you would rely on your own judgement, and I don't like a hidden agenda or trick in my game. All transparant and no blunders.

Please don't take it as I'm trying to coach you or to teach you about chess here...
mercy 65 ( +1 | -1 )
I agree I love to analyse during and after a game. My problem is... no one seems to welcome it. Now, I only do it if someone request it. Also, a fear of many top players is exactly what indiana-jay wrote in his last sentence above. Some top players are worried that they will sound like they are talking down to the lower rated player so... sometimes they refrain from suggestions or discussion.

If you like, please send me a message and we can discuss possibility of a game where I would be happy to analyze along the way... and answer questions.

Sincerely,
Doris
lroycroft 33 ( +1 | -1 )
Thanks Thanks for your support on this issue Doris. I hope that we can encourage a friendly and supportive environment on this excellent website so that all players of all skill levels feel welcome and can have fun.


Competitiveness is the weakest display of strength because it is born out of fear of being less than others.
indiana-jay 172 ( +1 | -1 )

I think that above was a great offer from mercy. I believe that there are questions that even a highly rated players need to be answered during a game. An answer from a (strong) player involved in the game is supposed to be better than post-analysis by spectators.

One of my self-training topics is training myself for positional understandings: I want to get over chess blindness. The only way to master this is to prove the assumptions or the "hypothesis". In a game between fvcwoodpusher (1948) and me (1600) on board #874817, I am to make my 12th move. In this position I think everyone agree that I have a positional advantage (first assumption). Well, in fact I had "successfully" transferred the slight positional advantage into a tactical position (another training topic). The point I want to talk about is what I have calculated after the next 6 moves. I have a judgement (hypothesis) about the position in the next 6 moves (if White replied exactly as I expected), which is a bit in the corridor of "chess blindness". The only way I have to validate the soundness of the judgement is to prove it. In fact it will be better if I can have anyone to tell me their judgements about the next 6 move position!

So you see? I didn't make "blunders" (yet). Everything were just like I had expected. So it is absolutely about whether I had been EXPECTING THE RIGHT THINGS! Knowing what to expect (or a good understanding of positions) is what I want to master in my training.
gtshadow 95 ( +1 | -1 )
Speaking as a relative beginner at chess and someone relativly new to GK, I think it is a great idea. I would love to find higher rated players to learn something from.

I think it would be an interesting idea to have a seperate area, where higher rated players, who would be open to playing games, where they give analysis during or after a game, could make it known they are willing and where players like myself, who want to learn all they can, can go to in order to find such players.

Personally, even if a player I'm playing seems like someone who would be willig to give analysis, I find it hard to broch the subject. Having someplace or some way of knowing who is willing and who isn't, on both sides of the coin, would be a great improvement.

Anyone who would like to discuss having such a game with me... just send me a message... I love the idea.
invincible1 53 ( +1 | -1 )
yes it is great fun talking and discussing during the game. Not just talking about chess but everything else too! ;-)

I dont think rating should be any barrier at all. First of all, rating does not matter much and does not say much either. High rated players are not necessarily good, and low rated players are not necessarily bad.

I am really honoured by the way Doris values my opinion also. (Infact rather surprised too!). She can beat me any day, has a comfortable 6-0 record already! But she is all the time ready to discuss and I love it! Thank you very very much!
lroycroft 40 ( +1 | -1 )
I find that if there is not much communication during the game it can be very impersonal...just a few comments help put a person behind the name. This may not be what some people want but it is less intimidating for new players.

I really appreciate all the replies...Perhaps we can have games that are not counted to the score which are only "practice" games where advice can be offered?

Larry