freyed_end
82 ( +1 | -1 ) Pawn promotionThis thread has probably been run through before but I did not see it... In my opinion ~~ a pawn should only be allowed to promote to 'Queen' if the promoting side does not have a Queen - I believe only the weakest player (even weaker than me) would actually need TWO QUEENS to finish what would be a Rook + Knight v/s Queen + Rook end-game - but instead of promoting to the missing Rook, my opponent promoted to a second Queen making it a Rook + Knight v/s Queen + Queen harruuummmppphhhh!!! This game did not happen on GameKnot and since you people are much better players, I thought I would petition your opinions... Admittedly when I was a brand new player I did play with Two Queens ONCE but now that I have a better understanding of Chess Etiquette.......... Well whatchooo think??
atrifix
34 ( +1 | -1 ) Thiswould cause major changes to currently existing chess theory, for example, Q+P vs. Q+2P. A few situations which were wins with QQ vs. QQ would probably be reduced to draws with QR vs. QR, etc. At any rate, don't expect it to happen any time soon, since, well, the rules have pretty much stood since the late 1400s.
gooftrooper
23 ( +1 | -1 ) y not, it gets the job done quicker (most of the time) and if u blunder a queen away thru a silly mistake u still have another 1 left.
philaretus
13 ( +1 | -1 ) This........would introduce the nanny spirit into chess. "No, you CAN'T have another Queen! You've already got one!.... Now go and wash your hands!"
vietnamese_girl_18
78 ( +1 | -1 ) Promoting to a queen, a second queen or otherwise, is supposed to be a very serious threat to the balance of the game. It is not there to make things more fun or more fair (what in chess is supposed to be fair?) but is there to give a serious boost in strength to the promoting player, usually a decisive boost. That's why much of chess play in the later stages of the game is a battle around the advance or blackading of pawns. You need that element of decisive promotion to bring the element of a deadly struggle-- meaning that the second queen can pretty much end the game; thus, the battle not only for mate, but for movement of pawns. It adds a second avenue of battle which only serves to make the game more of a struggle.
vietnamese_girl_18
16 ( +1 | -1 ) My last name should be "Tran" not "Train." That may be the first time I misspelled my own name. I think I need to get some sleep,
philaretus
15 ( +1 | -1 ) Chess is not..........politically correct. To make it so, White and Black, instead of fighting, should march together hand in hand towards the radiant future.
taoistlunatic
39 ( +1 | -1 ) I once played a game...where I traded queens, promoted a pawn to a new queen, traded my queen for my opponent's rook, promoted another pawn to another queen, used my new queen to get rid of my opponent's passed pawns and sacrificed her in the run, promoted another pawn to a fourth queen, and my opponent finally resigned..... :) You can call me a weak player, but I enjoyed crushing my opponent in style.... three queen sacrifices!
certainratio
105 ( +1 | -1 ) EtiquetteThe original question mentioned etiquette. While their are many unwritten rules of chess etiquette, not promoting to a second queen is not one of them. Their is no violation of etiquette at all when a player gains a second or third or even more queens (although if the material balance is very lopsided, the weaker side may have broken the rule of etiquette regarding resignation). In any case, the rules are fair, in that both players abide by the same agreed upon rules before the game begins.
Here is an interesting, real game in which there occurred five queens on the board at once (I apologize for the formatting):
certainratio
20 ( +1 | -1 ) misspellingChange my first two "their"s to "there" please. There really should be an option to edit a message after you click on "preview post" and before you click on "post message now".
-CertainRatio
certainratio
20 ( +1 | -1 ) misspellingChange my first two "their"s to "there" please. There really should be an option to edit a message after you click on "preview post" and before you click on "post message now".
-CertainRatio
victord
13 ( +1 | -1 ) certainratiothere is.....just back up (upper left) and it will bring up your written message, then you can make corrections.
philaretus
11 ( +1 | -1 ) Except that.........sometimes the backing up misfires, and you find yourself having to type in your message all over again. :(
bullmoose
36 ( +1 | -1 ) YeahIf it's a long post, quickly type CTRL-A (select all) and CTRL-C (copy) before hitting Preview/Post. If the system loses your text, a CTRL-V (paste) will get it back.
}: )
P.S. I think the current rules of chess are fine re. promotions. It's very cool to promote to a knight, producing a winning fork - sometimes an overlooked move.
bullmoose
36 ( +1 | -1 ) YeahIf it's a long post, quickly type CTRL-A (select all) and CTRL-C (copy) before hitting Preview/Post. If the system loses your text, a CTRL-V (paste) will get it back.
}: )
P.S. I think the current rules of chess are fine re. promotions. It's very cool to promote to a knight, producing a winning fork - sometimes an overlooked move.
certainratio
8 ( +1 | -1 ) thanksthanks for the information. the system has lost my text before, i'll try the CTRL-A ...
CertainRatio
gunnarsamuelsson
41 ( +1 | -1 ) foolishU would change and destroy the game with your idea. If u downgraded the pawnpromotion u would downgrade the the drama and magic of the game. Instead of ohh hes sacrificing his rook to get a 2 connected pawns !? Is he seing right??- no he can only get a new rook back for hes beautiful sacfifice!! - What is that !?? idiotic!! U would have the game dull , and after all isnt a farmers tools as deadly as any weapon at close range?
freyed_end
15 ( +1 | -1 ) Cool!At least every one agrees - now I can use two Queens without mixed feelings as to wether it's overkill - thanks for all the replys and sorry if the subject seemed silly...