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bluebabygirl ♡ 128 ( +1 | -1 )
THE ORIGIN OF CHESS ????????? have you ever wondered where chess came from ?Well i have and the answer came to me in a dream One day the devil looked upon mankind and saw all was well . He said no way ,this will not do .So he called in his three top generals . In came general Wreck Havoc, general Pure Torment and last but not least general Confusion.Now these 3 put their heads together and came up with this. Lets give man a game,one no man can ever truly master and each time one gets too close. Lets send another man along to wreak havoc, confuse him and simply torment him.This should destroy all happiness !!!!!!So the devil said thats great let it be so .Therefore up was sent a game called CHESS!!! Now god saw all this and said no way this will not do ! But god asked no advice, thats why they call him god !! To counter the devil's evil little plan, along with CHESS he attached 4 emotions 1. Pure comfort. 2. Pure delight . 3.Pure love 4. Absolute bliss. and god said all is well . now you ask what about 1.anger 2 hate 3 wrath 4 revenge??Well I just dont know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You will just have to ask that other guy way down there !!!!!!! JUST A DREAM yours bluebabygirl @hope you enjoy this . comments are welcome
bellepheron ♡ 25 ( +1 | -1 )
A very wonderful dream, and perhaps even more interesting than the real origin.

It's refreshing to see someone so enthusiastic about chess!

I hope one day you are the first female world champion.

With your attitude anything is possible!
raimon ♡ 2 ( +1 | -1 )
I Agree! You're a breath of fresh air!
jean-marc ♡ 13 ( +1 | -1 )
Another thread ? bluebabygirl, with all these forum threads you're starting, it's a wonder you have any time left to actually play chess !
raimon ♡ 2 ( +1 | -1 )
Well they seem to be popular!
macheide ♡ 30 ( +1 | -1 )
bluebabygirl Dear friend,

I agree absolutely with my fellows: Since you begin with your posts, I almost forget that there was once a Social Forum. This Forum have become more interesting, and as raimon said: "...a breath of fresh air".


myway316 ♡ 4 ( +1 | -1 )
As Master Yoda said: "Truly wonderous the mind of a child is!"
calmrolfe ♡ 61 ( +1 | -1 )
the oldest recorded game was played in the first half of the tenth century between Abu-Bakr Muhammed and his pupil Abu'l-Faraj al-Muzzaffar. At that time pawns could only advance one square at a time and could promote only to a Queen. Bishops could only move two squares diagonally and could pass over an occupied square. The Queen could move only one square diagonally and there was no castling. Abu-Bakr won !

The oldest recorded game with the modern rules was played between Francisco de Castellni and Narcisco Vinoles in Barcelona in 1485. Francisco won in 21 moves !

Kind regards,

bluebabygirl ♡ 26 ( +1 | -1 )
re- to all thanks ever so much !!!! i hope someday to be great not only at CHESS!! but also a great writer !! there is a part 2 to this . if anyone asks i will attach it here next . yours bluebabygirl p.s. I think part 2 is even better
bellepheron ♡ 3 ( +1 | -1 )
Ok, I'll bite.

Lets see part 2!
maca ♡ 8 ( +1 | -1 )
Calmrolfe, I dont think that piece was even called Queen

ughaibu ♡ 4 ( +1 | -1 )
Precursor to the 'queen' was the 'vizar' I believe.
bluebabygirl ♡ 199 ( +1 | -1 )
part 2 Now many a year has flown by. but the devil is very busy !!When his generals bring him news about the world of CHESS!!They saw that man was doing very well with this game . they said man was absolutely delighted with this new game. Why he was a studying, recording and a playing , with absolute joy!!!why there even thousands of chessplayers , many that were quite content and more that were about to enter the realm of BLISS!!!Devil no way this will not do !!This time he called in 4 generals -general PURE TORMENT , general WRECK HAVOC,general CONFUSION and his twin brother general CONTROVERSY !!!The 4 put their heads together came up with a good plan . they each would send a special disciple to enter the chess world just to stop all that human joy !!General TORMENT sent Paul Morphy and MR. PILLSBURY TO torment chess players forever with the wonder and sadness of the games they might haved played !!General HAVOC sent along TAL to wreck havoc with all his opponents and destroy their style of play!!General CONFUSION and General CONTROVERSY joined forces and sent this guy named ROBERT JAMES FISCHER , who seems to have caused through out his life and career both a fantastic amount of general confusion and great controversy!!Now god looked down , saw this turn of events . God said no way this will not do !!SO he sent his disciples to counter the devils evil little plan !!!!For COMFORT he sent Philidor with those special games !!For PURE DELIGHT he sent the games of Capablanca. For PURE LOVE he sent Frank Marshall for nobody loved the game of chess more than he !!!And for PURE BLISS he sent @@@@@@@@@, OR maybe he sent you or me , we just dont know yet !!!!!!!!!!!! a bluebabygirl original . hope you enjoy . because i wrote it 10 minutes after i finished the first one !!
bluebabygirl ♡ 82 ( +1 | -1 )
to bellepheron thanks very much I was not going to send this unless somebody wanted . i fear i might be boring some people with all my postings !!! but i need to practice my writing if I am ever to become a writer !!!I enjoy very much making up stories and poems , but I only experience joy from it , if others get enjoyment or pleasure from having read them !!!You and very many others have been most kind and very encouraging to me !!! This site has the most fantastic players i have ever met or probably will ever meet!!! comments are most welcome !!I WOULD RATHER BE RUINED BY PRAISE THAN SAVED BY CRITICISM, HOWEVER JUST A LITTLE CRITICISM IS GOOD MEDICINE !!!!! BUT ONLY A LITTLE !!! THE PRAISE I CAN TOLERATE MUCH BETTER !!! yours bluebabygirl
raimon ♡ 25 ( +1 | -1 )
Well you get only praise from me I'm afraid.
I would not want to squash any of that imagination and enthuiasm with critisim.
If critism does come then it should come from writers and poets - and as such it is bound to be constructive and designed to encourage.
ughaibu ♡ 52 ( +1 | -1 )
Crit. Part 1. Just a point of theological contention, at the
beginning of this part the devil's miffed at the
happiness of chess playing mankind, conversely most
major religions present a thesis whereby suffering in
the corporeal life will be rewarded in the spiritual and
vice versa, so surely the devil should have found
chess a resounding success(?) History actually
backs up this view as chess has been outlawed by
the prevailing religious authorities here and there
from time to time.
ughaibu ♡ 57 ( +1 | -1 )
Crit. Part 2. I guess God can play with time but otherwise it's
difficult for God to see consequences beginning with
Morphy and react by throwing in Philidor. On the
other hand, if God can play with time to this extent
humanity and the devil could be placed in different
eons. Anyway Lord Dunsany wrote an excellent
collection of short stories entitled Time and the
Gods, he was also the composer of some very
interesting chess problems and I believe wrote some
short stories on a chess theme. In short everything
ties up in some manner of fashion.
bluebabygirl ♡ 62 ( +1 | -1 )
to ughaibu great info and i thank you for it , but the point of my poem is the age old believe that god can undo or outdo anything the devil plans to harm us thus the devil sent the game but god turned it on him made it a great comfort and delight for man wheras the devil meant it to be a source of cunfusion controversy and torment . now obviuosly my poem showed the devil lost out !!!! I thank you for you input , espicially because it gave me another idea . so thanks ughaibu,, yours bluebabygirl p.s. I AM NOW DOING A POEM ON FISCHER VS. KARPOV AS JEAN-MARC ASKED ME ON HIS THREAD WITH THAT SAME NAME . SHOULD FINISH IT SOON. yours bluebabygirl
chessnovice ♡ 123 ( +1 | -1 )
maca The queen was actually known as "queen" by the time its moving abilities were changed in the 15th century. However, you're right that it wasn't always called "queen". The queen used to be known as "Firzan" (Persian for "Advisor"), and as "Fers" (Short for Firzan, of course) in Europe. Arabs began calling it "Queen" when they realized that they didn't know what the heck a Fers was.

The bishop also wasn't known as "bishop" then either, when it had its two-step diagonal move. Instead, it was characterised as an armed man sitting on an elephant - which is why it was called "Al-Fil" (Arabic for Elephant). Europeans didn't have elephants, so they didn't characterize the piece in such a way. In Germany it was known as a runner, and in France it was known as a fool.

I think it's pretty interesting that monks tried to identify pawns as individual charaters: farmer, a farrier, a weaver, a businessman, a doctor, an innkeeper, a policeman, and a gambler. I find it extremely helpful to know these histories when trying to teach others the fundamentals of chess.

By the way, can anyone inform me when the King's Leap was introduced to the chess world, as well as when it eventually became Castling? Thanks in advance.
snowdog ♡ 8 ( +1 | -1 )
Bishop In Italian is called "Alfiere", so we're still using a variation of the original term.
brucehum ♡ 7 ( +1 | -1 )
Bishop In Spain it is called "Alfil", so we're still using the original arab!
desertfox ♡ 38 ( +1 | -1 )
Brucehum No wonder. Spain was about 700 years under Arabic domination. The English Rook comes from the orginal Arabic word Rukhkh. In other languages it is a different story. In Dutch is is Kasteel, in French Tour, in German Turm, in Spanish and Italian it is Torre. All these languages refer to the form of the piece. By the way, in Russian a bishop is also an elephant (Slon).
bluebabygirl ♡ 69 ( +1 | -1 )
RE; THE QUEEN'S POWERS WERE INCREASED IN THE FIFTEENTH CENTURY BECAUSE IT WAS A BETTER REPRESENTATION OF THE POWERS OF A REAL LIFE QUEEN . we all know that many a nation was RULED not by its KING but rather by the power behind the throne namely his QUEEN. who could ever deny the power and rule of say QUEEN ELIZABETH for example . that shows the power of a woman when she is given a chance to prove herself. there are many more examples too .such as in the chess world the polgars for example !! thanks for great info on the real origin of chess !! my little poem seems to have brought out a great diecussion on this point . THANKS yours bluebabygirl
chessnovice ♡ 68 ( +1 | -1 )
... The queen's powers were increased in the 15th century to make the endgame quicker. Imagine promoting a pawn such that it HAD to be a piece that can only move one diagonal at a time. What a pain. The "mad" queen was necessary to end games properly.

There are still improvements to be made in the game, though. I remember reading someone's opinion on promotion that a pawn should only be able to promote to a captured piece. That makes sense to me, since the idea of nine queens is obscene (and actually impossible to represent over the board). I usually make an effort to not have multiple queens on the board because of that belief.
badjessie ♡ 13 ( +1 | -1 )
chess started as a war game then went thru many changes . its now a modern war game . at my best i make war on chessboard . later
maca ♡ 32 ( +1 | -1 )
Bishop Bishop's name seems to change in every country.
As it was known as war elephant, and now as "Bishop", in Finland it's called "Lähetti", what is much different than "bishop" or war elephant. Really, it's nothing more than a "messanger" would be.

bodacious_1uk ♡ 16 ( +1 | -1 )
Origins... I have read that chess was developed from an Indian game called 'Chaturanga' which was played 1500 years ago and was for four players.